Open Thread-House of Pena

52 Responses to Open Thread-House of Pena

1. T.O. Chris says:

   July 3, 2011 at 8:02 pm

   I’m always hoping no Yankees participate in the derby, it has a history of screwing up peoples second halves.

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   Phil C Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 8:07 pm

   Agree. And such a diplomatic reason from Tex! Gotta love it!

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   Steve S. Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 8:17 pm

   I’m not sure that’s ever been proven. People have bad 2nd halves all the time and the derby has become a convenient scapegoat by teams who don’t want their stars playing in the ASG anyway, fearing injury.

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   Phil C Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 8:25 pm

   Yeah, I never have seen any type of analysis on this issue. Also, for me, it’s boring to watch. Back in the 60′s there was a regular TV show called “Home Run Derby,” that lasted 30 minutes. Mantle was on it frequently. Probably would have hit 900 home runs if never was on that show.

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   Steve S. Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 8:37 pm

   Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig spent most of their offseasons barnstorming. The team didn’t like it, and they turned out alright.

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   T.O. Chris Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 8:41 pm

   I’ll go off of what players feel, and Alex has said that he felt like the Home Run derby can get you on a home run swing mentality for the rest of the year. Which is why he stopped doing it.

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   nyyankeefanforever Reply:
   July 4th, 2011 at 12:30 am

   I’ve seen reruns of the old Home Run Derby shows and it always struck me how most of those players looked rather embarassed to be doing it — whether it was because seeking face time back then was totally anti-old school or because of the chump change they were being paid to do it, I wouldn’t know. Nowadays, I equate the Derby with the NBA dunk contest, and notice that the league’s best players (not to mention dunkers) seldom participate — and this in a league where showboating is an art form and self-promotion to push a player’s signature shoe line knows no bounds of good taste. Go figure.

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2. Phil C says:

   July 3, 2011 at 8:06 pm

   It was weird watching the 8th & 9th innings. I never got concerned after D-Rob walked two men, so typical. But I did get worried when Mo walked one, so atypical. The BP has been a strength this season, can’t expect perfection. And they did win the series, that’s the key. It’s just a shame Garcia’s performance was wasted.

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   T.O. Chris Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 8:09 pm

   Well obviously had Mariano not pitched the other day he wouldn’t have been able to walk a batter. That is the rule afterall.

   I kid, I kid.

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   Phil C Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 8:22 pm

   I know. My head hurts.

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   Steve S. Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 8:25 pm

   Not their night

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   T.O. Chris Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 8:47 pm

   I wish we could see the MPH. I really want to know if the reports of Manny losing a tick or two on his stuff are true.

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3. Steve S. says:

   July 3, 2011 at 8:46 pm

   If anyone wants to watch the Trenton Thunder game live, here’s a link. Manny Banny is pitching.

   http://www.mamigoinc.com/thunder/

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   Steve S. Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 8:47 pm

   Jeter with a throwing error! Ha!

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   T.O. Chris Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 8:50 pm

   Pretty awful play on that one. Looked like he forgot Teixeira wasn’t at first haha.

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   Steve S. Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 8:49 pm

   WAT? Derek just ran right in front of the 2B (on the 2B side of the infield) and practically took the ball out of his mitt to make a play.

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4. T.O. Chris says:

   July 3, 2011 at 8:51 pm

   A lot of offspeed stuff from Manny.

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   Steve S. Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 8:55 pm

   And the announcer just said his walks have been down lately. Good sign.

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   T.O. Chris Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 8:58 pm

   That last fastball was well placed for the strikeout.

   The regressions in walks is never a bad thing, but I wonder if that could have anything to do with his stuff being down, and therefore easier to control.

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5. Steve S. says:

   July 3, 2011 at 8:59 pm

   See that mound conference? Jeter is at least 3 inches taller than anyone else but the pitcher who came in.

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6. Steve S. says:

   July 3, 2011 at 9:00 pm

   Ugh, what a joke. Manny Banny’s line will look much worse than he pitched between the errors and now the 3-run jack by the reliever.

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   T.O. Chris Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 9:07 pm

   No doubt, he finishes with 4.2 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 8 K.

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7. Steve S. says:

   July 3, 2011 at 9:02 pm

   Goodness. This game is an advertisement for FIP.

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8. Steve S. says:

   July 3, 2011 at 9:09 pm

   Heh, they imported the Bob Sheppard intro for Jetes.

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   Steve S. Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 9:11 pm

   and the bunt single!

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   Steve S. Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 9:14 pm

   Would have like to seen the takeout slide there. Maybe with a few rabbit punches thrown in if he knocks him down.

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9. T.O. Chris says:

   July 3, 2011 at 9:19 pm

   6 shutout innings with 12 Ks for Joba on this day in Trenton history… Oh the days when Chamberlain was a starter, we hardly knew ye.

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   Steve S. Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 9:25 pm

   That’s when he was really starting to turn heads and getting on the fast track. It’s one thing to do it in Hawaii or the low minors, but when you start blowing away AA hitters you put yourself on the MLB club’s radar.

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   T.O. Chris Reply:
   July 3rd, 2011 at 9:30 pm

   Until they give up on you in that role haha.

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10. Steve S. says:

    July 3, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    Jetes goes solo for the DP!

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11. T.O. Chris says:

    July 3, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Steve did you catch what Manny’s pitch count was when he left?

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    Steve S. Reply:
    July 3rd, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=t567&t=g_box&gid=2011_07_03_altaax_treaax_1

    Nope, not on their website either.

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    July 3rd, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    They normally have been letting him get into the 80′s this season, and I was wondering if he was around that when he was taken out. I think he and Betances need to be prepared to throw 100 pitches even in the minor legues, in order to allow them to work though jams. You don’t have to throw the kids arms off, but throwing 100 pitches is something they are going to have to do eventually.

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    Peter Lacock Reply:
    July 4th, 2011 at 4:52 am

    Banuelos threw 98 pitches per the announcer.

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12. T.O. Chris says:

    July 3, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    This is mostly just a scouting report from somewhere named BaseballNewsHound.com posted June 28th 2011, but it has a nice video of Dellin Betances pitching from this season if anyone is interested.

    http://baseballnewshound.com/?p=983

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13. Phil C says:

    July 3, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Has anyone ever done a study of how long pitchers careers lasted when they pitched every 4th day rather then every 5th? And threw more pitches?

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14. Steve S. says:

    July 3, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    Complete this sentence

    “If George was still alive….”

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    Phil C Reply:
    July 3rd, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Montero would have been traded long ago! Nunez would have been released. Jeter would bat leadoff.

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    Moshe Mandel Reply:
    July 3rd, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    ….he’d probably wonder why people forgot that he was basically all bark and no bite once he came back from suspension, and would be baffled by the fact that people throw around “if George was alive, he’d do X” as if he would actually have done X.

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    Steve S. Reply:
    July 3rd, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    I was going for humor. Something like “Ramiro Pena would be on his way to Scranton…in a HEARSE!”

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    Phil C Reply:
    July 3rd, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    After his 4th blown save, Mo would become a starter again.

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    Steve S. Reply:
    July 3rd, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    BTW-The team was run very, VERY badly under George throughout the 80s, who was the quintessential meddling owner who had no idea what he was doing. The Yankees had a managerial merry-go-round, traded away their best prospects, the Steve Trout deal, etc, etc. Then he let Gene Michael and Buck run things for a few years,. won, and everybody forgot what a buffoon he was for all those years. I didn’t.

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    Phil C Reply:
    July 3rd, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    But so entertaining with Billy.

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    nyyankeefanforever Reply:
    July 3rd, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    Regarding George, Ramiro and the hearse…..You say that like it’s a bad thing…lol.

    Seriously, though, somebody here throttled me quite hard a couple of days ago for suggesting Nunez brought a little more added value to the big club right now than Pena and they ripped me like I insulted their sister; hitting me with the line: “If you’re coming off the bench for the Yankees you’d better be bringing something to the table.”

    Remind me again what it is Pena is supposed to be bringing?

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    smurfy Reply:
    July 4th, 2011 at 12:43 am

    He swings the bat quite well, and from both sides of the plate, but has a slight difficulty with contact.

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    nyyankeefanforever Reply:
    July 4th, 2011 at 1:03 am

    ROFL! Thanks for setting me straight, smurfy. He certainly does bring a lot of that. Ball to glove contact appears to also be a small issue as well.

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15. rklanza says:

    July 3, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Games like today’s are the ones you look back on if you lose the division, or wildcats. One strike away. Damn.

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16. nyyankeefanforever says:

    July 4, 2011 at 12:55 am

    Pena’s played 46 games at SS this season in SWB: Are the balls down there shaped differently somehow — or does Citi Field somehow resemble Great American Ball Park in Cincy?

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    July 4th, 2011 at 6:05 am

    The difference would be the number of eye balls watching you do it.

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    nyyankeefanforever Reply:
    July 4th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    Ahhh, so his problem is rolling eyeballs, not rolling baseballs. Gotcha. That’s certainly helpful to the big club. Thanks for splainin’.

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    July 4th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    A little more rude than necessary but point taken I guess.

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    July 4, 2011 at 3:02 pm

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