Red Sox clobber Yankees, 10-4

10 Responses to Red Sox clobber Yankees, 10-4

1. bornwithpinstripes says:

   August 7, 2011 at 11:16 am

   does anyone know CC record and era vs sox as a yank? also his stats before a yankee

   Reply
   • Steve S. says:

     August 7, 2011 at 11:44 am

     Before this year, he’s been fine. They’ve been killing his fastball, he just has to adjust the way he pitches against them.

     Reply
2. Red Sox clobber Yankees, 10-4 | New York Yankees blog, Yankees … | Yankees News Source says:

   August 7, 2011 at 2:32 pm

   [...] more here: Red Sox clobber Yankees, 10-4 | New York Yankees blog, Yankees … AKPC_IDS += "29121,"; AKPC_IDS += [...]

   Reply
3. Duh, Innings! says:

   August 7, 2011 at 2:35 pm

   You wanna laugh when the Yanks let Sabathia walk after he opts out then asks for 7 or 8 years at $25M or more per year and the Yanks decide he’s too old and big to commit to long-term, they wouldn’t be hurting because he is at his worst against them (1-8, 6.16 ERA.)

   If the Chi-Sox put Jake Peavy on waivers this year, I’d claim him and he’d belong to the Yanks cuz I see no other team taking on his remaining salary including $21M for next year if he was bought out after next year and $39M for 2012-13 if he was kept through 2013.

   Here’s why the Yanks should get Peavy besides that he solidifies the postseason rotation and is insurance against Sabathia leaving the Yanks:

   1. Burnett could be left off of the ALDS roster if not the entire postseason roster. This would anger him to either do better next year or demand a trade which means he’d have to waive his no-trade clause and agree to go to at least one team the Yanks would want to ship him to. If I’m the Yanks I tell him right off the bat no AL teams so there is minimal chance he’ll come back to haunt us. I’d offer him and $1.5M cash to Atlanta for Derek Lowe because Lowe would be a 2012 only proposition who’d cost the same as 2012 Burnett with the Yanks throwing in $1.5M cash (Lowe’s $15M salary for 2012 + the $1.5M = $16.5M, what Burnett is making.) I’d rather put up with one year of Lowe than two more years of Burnett. The key would be to get Atlanta to think Burnett, a veteran five years younger than Lowe, could thrive with a return to the league with no DH and with a much weaker 7-8-9 batting order, and taking on his 2013 salary would be worth the risk. Low-risk high-reward on the Yanks’ end, high-risk, high-reward on the Braves’ end.

   2. Two from Hughes, Colon, and Burnett would go to the pen as you can’t have a six-man rotation long-term or move 10-4, 3.81 ERA Nova there or send Nova back to AAA, sorry. I know alot of you have visions of Hughes being the next (whatever ace or #2 you worship at the altar of), but one good start out of eight this year with the good one being his last one against a deflated Chi-Sox does not merit a rotation slot over Nova, a guy with ten times the wins across two stints, so Hughes would be one of the two I send to the pen. I’d probably send Burnett there, too, but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and see what he can do in his next two starts.

   3. Whoever doesn’t go to the pen with the arrival of Peavy has to compete with Nova for the ALDS Game 4 start since Sabathia, Garcia, and Peavy are postseason rotation locks. I’d start Garcia in Game 2, Peavy in 3 because Garcia throws softly enough that he could go at least three innings in Game 5 if it goes to extra innings. Ideally Game 2 with Garcia is a Yankees rout where they could take him out after six innings so they have him on standby for a Game 5 (the dream would be Garcia 6, Ayala the final 3 for the save, no Mo, Sori, D-Rob, or Loogyan my new nicknam for Logan used.)

   4. If the Yanks brought back Pettitte for next year only, the rotation could be Peavy/Pettitte/Burnett/Nova/Hughes to start 2012. They could trade for Jered Weaver, Matt Cain, Cole Hamels, Zach Grienke et.al. midseason or just sign one or two of them as all of them will be free-agents after 2012 barring extensions signed, no prospects given up. If Peavy has a #2 starter-like 2012, the Yanks could simply pick up his $22M club option for 2013 for a potential Weaver, Cain, Hamels, or Grienke-Peavy 1-2, or they could go juggernaut rotation and sign Weaver and Cain for Weaver/Cain/Peavy/Burnett/Nova, Hughes, Banuelos etc. Hopefully Jeter would be off the books after 2013 (doubtful with his ridiculous $8M player option for 2014 but who knows?) along with Burnett so taking on Weaver and Cain wouldn’t be so onerous payroll-wise long-term.

   Reply
4. Guzzle says:

   August 7, 2011 at 3:41 pm

   Ells is on the same secret sauce Colon is using to throw 96 mph at 39.

   Guess your lefty line-up that loves the little league right field you got at the stadium can’t hit balls of the Monsta!

   Reply
   • evadk07 says:

     August 7, 2011 at 5:04 pm

     my thoughts exactly. Ells perhaps has redefined his swing? Don’t start the ol PED alligations again. That “sauce” Colon used in the DR will prob be banned soon anyhow.

     Reply
     • JohnnyC says:

       August 7, 2011 at 6:30 pm

       Brett Gardner’s re-defining his swing next season, biatches! Watch out!

       Reply
5. Duh, Innings! says:

   August 7, 2011 at 4:43 pm

   Peavy today: EIGHT INNINGS OF THREE-HIT SHUTOUT BALL WIN AGAINST THE TWINS THERE right after a nice hard-luck loss start against the Yankees. 4-0 Chi-Sox. Yeah, it was against the Twins, but a shutout against an AL team is always impressive.

   I watched the Chi-Sox @ Twins on WGN America right now (strangely I get this channel which includes Chicago nightly news haha.)

   It’s fair to say I know what I’m talking about when it comes to who’s good and who isn’t, starting pitcher-wise. I said Nova should’ve stayed in the rotation and look at what he’s done since his return. I said get Jake Peavy earlier today and he spins a 8 IP 3 H 0 R / near CG SO gem. I said Hughes is not good enough to be in the rotation and he’s fighting to stay in it (one bad start and he could be out of it.) I said move Burnett to the pen and there’s been chatter and even entries about the idea of him being demoted him to the bullpen.

   Bottom line is Peavy > Any Yankee starter after Sabathia.

   Peavy would be low-risk high-reward if the Yanks got him and let go of Sabathia because he’d cost $2M less than 2012 Sabathia if (Peavy) was bought out ($17M salary for 2012 + $4M buyout = $21M vs. Sabathia’s $23M for 2012), $6M less than Sabathia if he wasn’t bought out ($17M salary only vs. $23M.) He’d cost $1M less than Sabathia in 2013 ($22M vs. Sabathia’s $23M) and $7M less than Sabathia if he was kept 2012-13 Sabathia ($39M vs. Sabathia’s $46M for 2012-13.)

   Sabathia/Garcia/Peavy/Nova, Colon, Hughes, or Burnett in the ALDS. That’s what Peavy’s arrival would create.

   But you people keep ignoring me hahaha.

   Reply
6. Duh, Innings! says:

   August 7, 2011 at 5:07 pm

   If the Chi-Sox sent Peavy to the Yanks, they would still have Floyd, Danks, and Humber for the rotation and probably would re-sign Buerhle who I can’t see signing elsewhere. They could use the $21M cleared for 2012 ($39M if they kept Peavy 2012-13) to get two very good hitters to augment Konerko, Quentin, Ramirez, and Dunn. They’ll clear money letting go of Pierre, too, so they could upgrade their offense with as many as three new players.

   Is it a risk on their part? Well, what if Peavy sucks for them next year? $21M for 2012 down the toilet. What if he’s great next year, they pick up his club option for 2013, and he sucks in 2013? $22M for 2013 down the toilet. Yeah, that could happen to the Yanks if they got Peavy, but riddle me this:

   Who would be better, 2012-13 Peavy or 2016-18/19 Sabathia? I’d say the former and the former guy would be better for the Yanks long-term.

   My prediction is Sabathia will opt out, ask for eight years to get at least seven years if not eight, and either get eight years or settle for seven. No way he’s accepting five or six years, or asking for seven cuz asking for seven could tip off that you might be willing to take six. Asking for eight years guarantees him seven. Wish him the best when he says he wants no less than seven years. The Yanks can’t have this guy at age 36-38/39 with his size cuz he’d be one ACL tear or who knows what from being Mike Hampton II. Remember that contract? Granted Sabathia is better than him but Hampton was good enough to get eight years and $121M (I believe a record contract in years and money at the time) from Colorado. Hampton’s 8 years is still a record for years for a pitcher.

   Reply
7. A closer look at CC Sabathia vs. the Red Sox | New York Yankees blog, Yankees blog, A blog about the New York Yankees | The Yankee Analysts says:

   August 11, 2011 at 3:02 pm

   [...] ugly 2011 numbers, CC’s really only had one truly awful outing against the Sox, and that was this past Saturday’s. While he didn’t give his customary length on April 10, he still limited the damage to one [...]

   Reply