Weighing in on the Waiver Wire

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1. Professor Longnose says:

   August 15, 2011 at 11:17 am

   Will Rodriguez’s power come back when he does?

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   • smurfy says:

     August 15, 2011 at 12:11 pm

     In an interview, he identified that as a serious goal. One necessary step. I don’t know if he plans to start with doubles, and work up his trajectory, he didn’t say.

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2. smurfy says:

   August 15, 2011 at 12:45 pm

   I’m thinking that management needs to claw back from the players the ability to store players in the minors, without need for options. (or get those options purchaseable.) Then, they could talk turkey with Tom, and get a deal that ensures against need for LOoGYs for 5 years or so.

   He’s a young turkey, right? There’s plenty of knowledge available on him, so they could feel confident, if he’s the best candidate. $6 – 10 million could fulfill a reasonable man’s dreams for family security, and his pride would have to be harnessed to the task, such as ignoring occasional nasty posts, indefinite sojourns in the minors, but good medical benefits. Much better than unemployment, seeya in the spring. Get some good r&r, you must need a rest. Here’s a training schedule, a rough pitching plan for you to work on, and here’s Larry’s number.

   Myself, I like the idea of converting Rick Ankiel to a LOoGY cum utility outfielder, pinch hitter.

   If they had a LOoGY in the bank, then, they could opt for Manuel with a clear conscience. I’ll admit my expectations are excited to see the young man test himself. If there were any way it could be low key, it could be a good learning experience. But if expectations are too high, the more likely result is nervous embarassment, kinda like with Sr. Montero.

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3. Duh, Innings! says:

   August 15, 2011 at 1:49 pm

   The Pirates are not handing the Yankees Gorzelanny and zero MLB experience Banuelos isn’t ready to face MLB hitters yet. I wouldn’t chance damaging or shattering the kid’s confidence. Enough with the top starting pitching prospect being an MLB reliever crap. Not this again, and how’d it work out for Chamberlain and Hughes?

   Jake Peavy is the guy to get and I’d appreciate it if any of you tell me why he isn’t, not just say “The Yanks aren’t getting him” cuz last I checked, none of you work in the Yankees front office as much as some of you think you do. No “He isn’t good” without why he isn’t either. Look at his 2011 gamelog on his Baseball Reference page. This guy is back.

   He is the following:

   -A former Cy Young Award winner still in his prime who turned 30 on May 31.

   -Someone the Yanks wouldn’t have to give up a top or second-tier prospect for. He costs mostly money. The Yanks have blown $11.75M on three pitchers who won’t throw a single pitch for the 2011 Yanks (Igawa, Felicano, and Marte) thus Peavy would be worth more than all of them with his first pitch as a Yankee made this year.

   -The Yanks #2 starter today, Game 2 or 3 starter in the ALDS, Game 1 or 2 starter in the ALCS and World Series, and insurance Game 7 ALCS/WS starter if Sabathia couldn’t make the start. I wouldn’t entrust anyone in the current Yankees rotation with Game 7 vs. Verlander/Masterson/Ugando/Beckett/Weaver (ALCS) or Halladay/Lincecum/Juergens/Grienke (World Series) if Sabathia couldn’t pitch. Look at those names and take your head out of your rearend if you think Garcia, Colon, or Burnett could hang with them since it ain’t gonna be Nova or Hughes. Burnett for a Game 7 is laughable. Colon for Game 7 is a potential disaster (he has to be taken out after three innings due to an injury.) Garcia would be the Yanks only hope to go to or win the World Series if Sabathia couldn’t go. Think about that then shudder.
   I like Garcia and Colon but not that much.

   -A pithy $3.5M or less the rest of this year, $17M for next year if he had a solid year, $21M ($17M salary for 2012 + $4M buyout) if he didn’t have a solid year, $22M for 2013 and $42.5M – X total if he had a solid enough 2012 to have his 2013 club option picked up, and a potential $42.5M – X bargain if he’s #2 like.

   -Under control through 2013.

   -Type A or B free agent (I don’t know which) if he’s bought out after 2012 or let go after 2013, or do the Yanks get draft picks if they buy him out?)

   -Insurance against Sabathia signing elsewhere or the #2 solidifying the 2012 rotation if Sabathia re-signs (Sabathia/Peavy/Burnett as the locks by contract, Nova/Hughes as the probable backend.) If Sabathia signed elsewhere and the Yanks got Pettitte to come out of retirement, the rotation to start 2012 would be Peavy/Pettitte/Nova/Hughes/Burnett.

   -A potential #2-like #3 or solid #3 for 2013 behind two signed from Weaver, Grienke, Hamels, and Cain (et.al.) if Sabathia signs elsewhere.

   Bottom line is neither Garcia nor Colon will be Yankees next year, Nova and Hughes aren’t locks to be in next year’s rotation all year, there are no free agent starters for 2012 as good as or better than Peavy, and Sabathia is no lock to re-sign after he opts out. If the Yanks lose Sabathia their 2012 rotation is Burnett as the ace dogshit and they’re not making the postseason let alone finishing .500 or better. They’d be fighting Baltimore for fourth place/to avoid last place. Unless they wanna give up the farm for who? Who would trade their ace or #2 to the Yanks? Before 2012? No one. If I’m a GM I ask for any two from Montero, Banuelos, and Betances and if I don’t get that, bye.

   WHAT IF SABATHIA GOT HURT BEFORE THE POSTSEASON?

   WHAT THEN?

   The only reason why the White Sox wouldn’t trade Peavy to the Yanks this year I could see is if they think he can help them win the division as I believe they’re only four games or so behind Detroit today. If they keep him for the rest of this year, he’s that good. Btw do you want the Yanks to potentially face him in the first round if the White Sox win the AL Central? Peavy is more than capable of posting 6 or 7 solid innings against the Yankees considering all the pitchers he’s better than who have stymied the Yanks this year.

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   • smurfy says:

     August 15, 2011 at 2:57 pm

     Duh, I think you meant “paltry” rather than “pithy.” But a scheduling expert, such as yourself, probably never comes close to the word, so it’s understandable.

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     • Duh, Innings! says:

       August 15, 2011 at 3:34 pm

       Up yours, truce off. And actually contribute to the comments instead of your dumb one-sentence chime-ins and babbling.

       You’re the anti-T.O. Chris. He pontificates and always thinks and has to be right, you make no point whatsoever.

       Who starts Game 2 and 3 of the ALDS if Garcia or Colon can’t, moron?

       You really want a potential Nova in Game 2/Garcia, Colon, or Burnett Game 3? Nova or Burnettt sure as hell isn’t pitching Game 3 if the Yanks are down 0-2. You’d entrust an old, frail Colon with Game 3, series tied or Yanks down 0-2?

       I hope Sabathia, Garcia, and Colon make it to the ALDS healthy cuz if one or two don’t, bye bye Yanks.

       Pithy:

       brief, forceful, and meaningful in expression; full of vigor, substance, or meaning; terse; forcible

       Well, Peavy could be that with 7 solid starts the rest of 2011 and a solid 2011 postseason. Happy???

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       • ed says:

         August 15, 2011 at 4:22 pm

         You really have a point. Peavy will be useful if not great.

         I just don’t se it. The white sox wouldn’t trade Peavy just like that, and the yankees haven’t shown any interest.

         Let it go.

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         • Duh, Innings! says:

           August 15, 2011 at 5:17 pm

           No I won’t let it go especially when I’m given little to no reason why he wouldn’t be a good fit. Name me one team who has inquired about him. I can’t, cuz none have. Why? His salary. Who is the one team who can take it on? The Yanks.
           He wouldn’t cost Montero, Banuelos, Betances, Nunez, or probably even Noesi or Wade, so what’s the hatred for this guy? All he’d cost is money and minor prospects. The guy just turned 30.

           Who is in the Yanks rotation besides Burnett next year Sabathia staying or gone? Who can be in the rotation all 2012 barring injury? Garcia and Colon probably won’t be back. Nova and Hughes could be in the rotation to start the year but could they last an entire year? This move wouldn’t be just for the postseason, it’s for next year, too.

           The Yanks are stupid not to show interest because they are f with five letters after that if Sabathia, Garcia, or Colon can’t start in the postseason. We better hope the opposition doesn’t bunt left and right on Colon in Game 2 or 3 of the ALDS to see if he can last the inning (what I’d do against him.) And we all better hope Sabathia doesn’t wet his pants against the Red Sox again if the Yanks draw the Red Sox in the ALCS.

           I could definitely see the White Sox wanting to shed Peavy’s remaining salary, $17M for next year, $21M if he was bought out. That’s a ton of money for a guy when you have Floyd, Danks, Humber, and probably Buerhle in your rotation already and you need hitting. They could hypothetically re-sign Freddy Garcia and he’d be a nice fifth starter for them at a fraction of the cost of 2012 Peavy.

           This entry is about the waiver wire hence my bringing up Peavy. If you people don’t like it, filter the guy’s name or ignore me.

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           • Phil C says:

             August 15, 2011 at 6:44 pm

             y thoughts on Peavy. When healthy he is an ace. But for the past 4 years he’s been on the DL every year and frequently for prolonged periods of time. He probably has at least an equal if not higher risk of injury than Colon or Gracia. Certainly Peavy’s risk is higher than CC’s.

             Asking price by CWS? If they were indeed willing to trade Peavy I think they’d want a decent return. They really have little or no incentive to just dump his contract. As you point out his remaining contract dollars are not prohibitively high. I’m not sure what they’d ask for in return, but personally I think it would be significantly more than you believe.

             Waivers, would Peavy clear? Since he is in the AL there is a better chance the Yanks could claim him first. However, I think there is a reasonable ikely hood that Detroit would claim him. They have already shown a disposition to add players and Peavy would be a good addition to their staff.

             Certainly if Peavy is placed on waivers the Yanks should try to acquire him, I just don’t think it will be easy or as cheap as you do. And because of his injury problems I’m not certain I would be willing to give up too much for him. But if you’re correct about what it would take to get, I’d agree with you and go for it.

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           • Ed says:

             August 15, 2011 at 7:37 pm

             He is a good fit as good as it gets in this trade market. but he is a trade deadline guy, you’re right no one is asking but no one is selling either.

             I have yet to find something even the smallest piece of information that can relate Peavy and the Yankees’ don’t get me wrong I like Peavy he is a risk worth taken

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4. Duh, Innings! says:

   August 15, 2011 at 2:04 pm

   What if Garcia or Colon had a season-ending injury or couldn’t pitch in the ALDS?

   This is a legitimate question.

   Sabathia/Nova/Colon/Burnett ALDS rotation if Garcia was out.

   Sabathia/Nova/Garcia/Burnett ALDS rotation if Colon was out.

   Sabathia must pitch Games 1 and 5 no matter who comes after him.

   Burnett cannot start Game 2, especially if the Yanks lose Game 1.

   Nova cannot start Game 3 if the series is tied or especially if the Yanks are down 0-2.

   Garcia or Colon in Game 3 does not make me feel good if the Yanks are down 0-2. If the Yanks lose Game 3 with either to go down 1-2, the season rests on Burnett’s shoulders although I give him a quick hook if he can’t get it done.

   I can’t see the Yanks starting Nova and Hughes in the ALDS, the only reason I’ve slotted Burnett in the #4.

   Think about that instead of having a blind aversion to getting Peavy, a guy who’d be the best Game 3 ALDS option to help the Yanks snap a series tie or get on the board if they were down 0-2.

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6. Ed says:

   August 15, 2011 at 7:42 pm

   I have read this in bleacher report.

   it’s kind of funny, maybe too funny

   http://bleacherreport.com/articles/802256-mlb-trade-scenarios-potential-waiver-deals-for-all-30-teams/page/20

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