TYA Game Thread, Tuesday June 14th, 2011

63 Responses to TYA Game Thread, Tuesday June 14th, 2011

1. Mike Jaggers-Radolf says:

   June 14, 2011 at 7:44 pm

   The tarp is off the field and MY9 just aired the National Anthem. Big stoppa is taking the mound. Looks like this game is about to get under way.

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2. Matt Imbrogno says:

   June 14, 2011 at 7:55 pm

   Let’s hope the Yanks can touch Ogando up again. They got him for five last time.

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3. Steve S. says:

   June 14, 2011 at 8:11 pm

   The flip play, the flip play, the flip play.

   As memorable as the diving into the stands play was, it was also kinda stupid. He traded an out(albeit a big one) for missing the rest of the game and the next few days. I’d rather he didn’t make that play.

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   Professor Longnose Reply:
   June 14th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

   You don’t get to know beforehand which attempts will end up with an injury. If Jeter doesn’t try to make that play, he would likely have also had to not try to make a bunch of others, too.

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4. Steve S. says:

   June 14, 2011 at 8:25 pm

   Derek who?

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   Professor Longnose Reply:
   June 14th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

   Derek Pipp.

   Gotta like the way Nunez scored there.

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5. T.O. Chris says:

   June 14, 2011 at 8:34 pm

   The Rangers announce team is comparing Nelson Cruz’s arm to Roberto Clemente right now.

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   Mike Jaggers-Radolf Reply:
   June 14th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

   That’s bold of them.

   Well, that was a quick outing. Tex layed down the HAMMER. That hit was awesome. And not a Home Run to boot. I thought the Yankees could only score on the long ball?

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   T.O. Chris Reply:
   June 14th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

   Bold is the nicest word I could use to describe this group. As a whole they make every game against the Rangers unenjoyable.

   Ogando really got himself into trouble with all the balls. I don’t care how good your fastball is, if that’s all you have you will be in trouble against this team.

   I thought Alex had that one.

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   Steve S. Reply:
   June 14th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

   Ogando is too predictable for a good hitting team like the Yanks. As good as his fastball is, the Yanks have too many hitters that can handle it, and he doesn’t have good location with his breaking balls. They just sit fastball.

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   T.O. Chris Reply:
   June 14th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

   This is actually the worst I have seen his control, I’ve watched a few games of his this year and this was by far the worst. He experimented with a few different breaking balls, including a split in spring training, but nothing has been great. The biggest reason he was in the pen last year is that exact reason.

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6. T.O. Chris says:

   June 14, 2011 at 8:36 pm

   Granderson and Teixeira going up above the zone for solid hits.

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7. Professor Longnose says:

   June 14, 2011 at 8:37 pm

   They’re similar as far as having one elbow each.

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   Mike Jaggers-Radolf Reply:
   June 14th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

   And five digits.

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8. smurfy says:

   June 14, 2011 at 8:39 pm

   Hoot, hoot, poot! A reg’lar hit poo-rade!

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9. Mike Jaggers-Radolf says:

   June 14, 2011 at 8:41 pm

   A-Rod missed that by about a centimeter.

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10. Steve S. says:

    June 14, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    JackCurryYES: According to @Brookob, Brian Gordon, Phillies AAA pitcher, opted out and signed w Yanks. Converted OFer was 5-0 w 1.14 era.

    Anyone know anything about him? Since he had an opt-out, I’ll guess he’s a fringy AAAA type.

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Brian Gordon, 32, had a 9 K/9 and a 1 BB/9 in triple A.

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Apparently he has 4 IP in the major league with Texas in 2008, with 4 H, no BB’s, and 1 K, while posting a 2.25 ERA and a 2.63 FIP. He’s been in the minor leagues with the Astros, Rangers and Phillies since 2007. He will start for us on Thursday.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=2374&position=P

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11. T.O. Chris says:

    June 14, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    Mitch Moreland had a Grand Slam that didn’t count this year. He had the final hit off of Gio Gonzalez, that took Gio out after 2+ innings, and the game was rained out in the 3rd. You have to be pissed when you lose 1 HR, and 4 RBI because of rain.

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    Professor Longnose Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    Do you remember the Don Money non-grand-slam that got taken back because someone called time? Opening Day, I forget the year.

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    That’s heart breaking, I’d probably just repeatedly slap the guy who called time.

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    Professor Longnose Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    It was 9th inning, and it would have won the game. http://www.brewcrewball.com/2011/4/10/2101472/today-in-brewer-history-a-grand-slam-that-was-and-one-that-wasnt

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12. T.O. Chris says:

    June 14, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Swisher has maintained being locked in from the right side all year. If only he could switch those splits.

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13. smurfy says:

    June 14, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    That Swisher home run was absoluely hammered. Perfecto.

    No problems right handed.

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14. Professor Longnose says:

    June 14, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    Posada is now officially non-pathetic. His OBP is above league average! And his OPS+ is exactly 100.

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    Mike Jaggers-Radolf Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Exactly 100? Wow. Talk about a correction.

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    Sean P Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    That’s always a good thing, for sure. Wish they could keep him in the lineup a little more with the NL swing coming up though.

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    Professor Longnose Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    Sorry, sorry. Looking in the wrong place. He’s still at 89. His OBP is above league-average by a point.

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    I was going to say, his SLG is stil below .380.

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15. Steve S. says:

    June 14, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Meh, I’d rather get a look at Phelps. I like Noesi out of the bullpen, but Phelps has a full compliment of pitches.

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    I agree. I wonder if Brian doesn’t feel like Phelps would react well, or if he would just rather give this guy a chance before calling up any of the kids. Fangraphs says in 08 he averaged 88 MPH in those 4 innings, so he isn’t exactly a world beater with velocity.

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    Mike Jaggers-Radolf Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    The Yankees seem always to jump on the opportunity to throw someone out there who has been in the big leagues before, even if it doesn’t make any sense.

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Maybe Cashman thinks this is the year to try out of a project. I guess he got lucky with Colon and Garcia, why not try it again. Although I’m really not sure 4 innings counts anywhere near as much as Colon and Garcia.

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16. T.O. Chris says:

    June 14, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Great stroke by Alex on that one.

    Rangers are convinced Teixeira faked the HBP, any replays confirm this?

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    Mike Jaggers-Radolf Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    Unclear. They’re not showing it. They’re showing Tex score and talking about why he holds his batting gloves when he runs.

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    The one replay they showed on FSRangers looked kind of like he did, but it was hard to tell if it clipped the back half of the shoe or not. They said he looked fine going around the bases, so that was their proof.

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    smurfy Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    I guess that’ why Torrealba was hopping on one foot after Tex did it. I was gathering wool, Gardner was sliding into second, and both these guys were hopping around. I thought, “shit! what the hell is going on.”

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    I don’t see why Teixeira would take himself out of an opportunity to bat with a man in scoring position, especially after he drove in a run in his last at bat. He also yelled out an expletive at the exact same time the ball landed. If he faked it, he is really good with timing.

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17. Duh, Innings! says:

    June 14, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    What is this bullshit about “Hughes is a starter” from Girardi?

    The only way I’d put Hughes back in the rotation is if Colon doesn’t come back before Hughes or Nova sucks again. Either scenario is possible, but if Colon returns before Hughes and Nova keeps pitching like he has the past two starts, Hughes can make starts in AAA or go back to the Yankees’ bullpen until Colon or Nova suck. You don’t fix what ain’t broke, and no 0-3, 10+ ERA dude should be given his job back automatically.

    If Hughes comes back before Colon and Nova is still pitching well, Hughes to the pen when Colon returns, period, end of story, case closed. This isn’t spring training or when no one knew what Colon would give the Yankees when Hughes was dl’d.

    Someone tell that ill-read blowhard Michael Kay that Hughes had an ERA around 5 (or was it just over 5?) after a 6-1 start last season and that Hughes won 18 games primarily from having the best run support in the league. He had one of the worst 18-win seasons a starter could have.

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18. T.O. Chris says:

    June 14, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    Sabathia looked real sharp to start the first 3 innings, but the Rangers offense has gotten to him in the 2 innings since then. Last time out he looked almost unhittable for most of the game, and then the Red Sox clobbered him. Good thing we have a 9 spot on the board.

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19. T.O. Chris says:

    June 14, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    We have to pass a rule so all other teams only make Swisher face lefties. Or if we could only fuse Swisher and Posada together.

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    smurfy Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    Did you see the clip of a switch hitter up against Venditte? Guy keeps switching back and forth, and Pat keeps switching his pitching hand. When Venditte strikes him out with a curve, he hammers his bat down, and stumps off, screaming “it’s not fair!”

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Yeah, they passed a rule because of that. He’s a fun story but I highly doubt he ever makes it to the big leagues to put that rule into practice though.

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20. T.O. Chris says:

    June 14, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Man, some Yankee fan just think we can trade for anyone. I just got done reading an article insisting Clayton Kershaw will be available, that simply makes no sense. They also suggested offering Montero and Banuelos for Gio Gonzalez and Brian Fuentes, saying it’s more likely they would trade Gio because Anderson is hurt. I certainly wouldn’t trade both for him, I think Banuelos has at least as much upside as Gonzalez does. I also fail to see how losing one of your best, young, affordable pitchers makes you more likely to trade one of the others.

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    smurfy Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    Goofy, and Kershaw is the last Dodger to go. Probably too much fantasy b’ball.

    I pointed out Kershaw to my daughter, trying to interest her in baseball, and she said,”Hmm, now That’s interesting.” They won’t let him out of Hollywood.

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    It’s the same with all “The Mariners aren’t going to win a World Series in the next 3 years so they have to trade Felix” people. I’m just hoping we don’t end up with Brett Myers or Wandy Rodriguez.

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    smurfy Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    I was playing around with the “get Felix” movement. But I’d never heard of Pineda, or thought they would hit enough to beat .500. They’ve got a glimmer now, and Seattle must be starving. So, no dice.

    I hope Cashman doesn’t deal for second raters. Seems like a great year to dig for diamonds among prospects. If we can’t land an excellent pitcher without giving away the store, better to wait for it.

    Get Dustin Moseley back.

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    You can almost never land an excellent pitcher without giving up a lot of the farm. No one is going to trade us any top end rotational starter for less than a package built around Banuelos or Montero, and many will require both. Liriano is an interesting name, and the best available target who shouldn’t cost either of those 2. I’m also high on Edwin Jackson, he shouldn’t cost much, and could be brought back next year. The Yankees will trade for someone, they won’t stand pat, and they won’t go with prospects the rest of the way. I just hope they avoid Myers and Wandy because I don’t see either doing well in the AL East.

    Trading for Moseley would be a waste. He isn’t going to be much better than an in house option anyway, and his numbers are clearly being helped by Petco park. Plus he hurt his non throwing shoulder last start swinging the bat.

    If the White Sox wanted to part with John Danks I’d be open to trading anyone not named Sanchez, Montero, or Banuelos, but I don’t see any incentive on their part for just Betances and some others.

    The big problem is none of the top end starters are going to be available, at any price. So we’re going to have to sift through the red flags, and middle to back end guys.

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    smurfy Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    I say add Betances to your no-go list, keep Brackman on the farm till he gets control. Develop Nova, Noesi, try out Phelps, Warren. With good young ones tied up, gotta develop our own.

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    June 15th, 2011 at 2:55 am

    Betances has a lot of red flags for me, he could be an ace, or he could bust out completely. If I got a chance to trade Betances in a package and bring back a top end starter, I do it in a heart beat. His control is always going to be a huge concern, and he may very well end up in the bullpen by the time it’s all said and done.

    Just because we have prospects we can’t fall so in love we aren’t willing to move them. Yes some should be treasured, but I don’t look at Betances as being in the same category as Montero or Banuelos. There is no such thing as an untouchable prospect.

    I no longer see Brackman as a starting pitcher, his control is never going to come around well enough to go through lineups 3-4 times. Noesi is going to be a bullpen peice, and I think the Yankees realize this as well. The reason they aren’t going to let him start Thursday is they want to see what they can get out of him in an Aceves like role, be anything from long relief to one important inning.
21. smurfy says:

    June 14, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Brett’s on fleet street again.

    But he can trot home now.

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    I’m going to set Granderson’s HR over/under at 40 at this point, and I think I’m taking the over. I still don’t believe he will hit 50, but he is certainly on pace to do just that.

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    smurfy Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    They’ve had time to find a hole. If he doesn’t get hurt, I could see him keeping it up. His batting pos is perfect, with Tex and Arod and Cano behind him. His split against lefties is remarkable, and consistent.

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    50 is an awful lot of home runs though, his previous career high is 30. He’s going to have to hit 50 before I believe he will.

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    smurfy Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    With me playing golf, I once started out par, par. When I realized it, I blew up: if I did too well, I’d have to do that every time.

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22. T.O. Chris says:

    June 14, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Gardner’s finally doing a good job of getting on first and taking off. For the longest time it looked like he always wanted to have the best lead, the best jump, and the best count to steal the bag. With his speed he doesn’t need all of that, he can simply out run the baseball.

    Granderson! Bautista has company at the top once again!

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23. smurfy says:

    June 14, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    Lightning shot from Robbie. Glorious night. Chris, you’re right on Gardner. He’s got to go! (and quit thinking)

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    Everyone in the lineup seems to be getting hot all at the same time, from Granderson on down to Posada.

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    smurfy Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    Maybe Ramiro can catch it!

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24. smurfy says:

    June 14, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Jeter will get #3000 at CitiField. And they will cringe with envy at the NY cheers.

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    T.O. Chris Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Maybe it’s just me but I can’t bring myself to even care a little about Jeter getting 3000. He’s already a guaranteed first ballot hall of famer, and he’s having an awful year. Watching him slowly hit singles until he gets this mark just isn’t getting me excited.

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    smurfy Reply:
    June 14th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    I don’t much either, don’t like the milestone hype, but the Citi event sounds kinda juicy, in an evil way.

    So who’s the player of the game? Hard to choose. Tex, Alex, Grandy, Gardy, Swish, Jorge,Robbie, CC? Better give to Nunez: kept that wonderful rally going!

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