Kuroda vs. Jimenez

15 Responses to Kuroda vs. Jimenez

1. Reggie C. says:

   July 28, 2011 at 11:07 am

   The Kuroda sweepstakes are likely to attract more contenders than Jimenez. Competition in this case drives the cost of prospects up. A team like oh .. the RS.. could see Kuroda as the missing link to take them deep into the playoffs.

   I could easily see the price for kuroda escalate and cost us a young, team control starter (Nova).

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2. says:

   July 28, 2011 at 11:22 am

   exchanged a few tweets with larry yesterday, but I don’t think you should break the bank on Ubaldo. Why not try everything you can to pry Felix from the Mariners?

   Sounds impossible, but a ridiculous package around Cano, Gardner, and Nova with 6 prospects could get things rolling, no? Before the naysayers say the Yankees are paying too much, realize that this team is built to win now and Sabathia with Felix would be one of the best, if not the best 1-2 combos in the playoffs. Why risk Ubaldo flaming out (honestly, I’m scared about his velocity drop) and lose the prospects needed for Felix?

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   BKLYN Reply:
   July 28th, 2011 at 11:57 am

   I never understand the Win-Now argument that people use with the Yankees.

   The Yankees are built to Win, Period. Yesterday, Now, Tomorrow, 100 yrs from now. You think 3 years from now, the yankees wont be fielding a quality team with the goal of winning the world series.

   Stop with the win now BS.

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   Tom Swift Reply:
   July 28th, 2011 at 11:59 am

   Then we would be down a starting second baseman and starting LFer, with no one to replace their production. That deal makes no sense.

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   July 28th, 2011 at 12:47 pm

   +1

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3. bornwithpinstripes says:

   July 28, 2011 at 11:44 am

   pass on both

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4. Ethan says:

   July 28, 2011 at 11:58 am

   There’s a rumor that Kuroda wants to return to japan at the end of this season when he hits free agency. Meaning the Yanks wouldn’t be able to re-sign him (if they would want to). Not sure how that would work with a compensation draft pick either…

   Could a reason the rockies want to trade jimenez be that something is wrong considering his loss in velocity?

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5. Duh, Innings! says:

   July 28, 2011 at 12:28 pm

   The Yanks should get Jimenez for Sabathia/Jimenez/Burnett/Garcia/Colon the rest of the regular season. The pen could be Rivera/Soriano/Robertson/Ayala/Logan/Romero/Hughes if Soriano returns, Romero is called up, and Hughes is moved to the pen (Noesi, Wade, and Garrison sent down.) If you think Hughes would/should be shut down, fine, Noesi in place of him.

   ALDS rotation:

   Sabathia Games 1 and 5
   Garcia Game 2
   Jimenez Game 3 so he starts if the Yanks are down 0-2 or tied and want a better chance at going up 2-1
   Burnett or Colon Game 4

   ALCS and WS rotations:

   Garcia Games 1 and 5
   Jimenez Games 2 and 6
   Sabathia Games 3 and 7
   Burnett or Colon Game 4

   Or Garcia and Jimenez switch places if the Yanks want Jimenez to start at home one game in the WS (Game 5.) I’d rather have Jimenez start Game 2 of the WS because I think he’s more likely to help the Yanks tie it up or go ahead 2-0 than Garcia, as much as I like Garcia enough to have him start where I’ve slotted him above. I don’t want Burnett or Colon anywhere near a Game 1, 2, or 3 – they’re Game 4 starters.

   The 2012 rotation could be Sabathia/Jimenez/Burnett/Garcia re-signed/Whoever wins the fifth starter job among Hughes, Nova, Warren, Phelps, Noesi, and either Betances or Banuelos (whichever isn’t traded for Jimenez.) Or the 4-5 could be any two from Garcia, the farmhands, and maybe a minor-league contract veteran (Chien Mien Wang?)

   I would give up Montero and either Betances or Banuelos for Jimenez because I honestly don’t thnk Montero and/or whichever kid is traded will help the Rockies make it to or win a World Series and I think Jimenez could help the Yanks win a World Series before the Rockies win one as early as this year. If the Yanks make it to or win this year’s WS with Jimenez, the trade would have paid off esp. if the Yanks won the WS of course. Bottom line is if Montero and whoever doesn’t help the Rockies win the WS for as long as they are Rockies and Jimenez is a Yank, who cares what they do for the Rockies?

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6. says:

   July 28, 2011 at 12:49 pm

   Can Hughes not be added in any deal? I’m sure the Rockies or Dodgers would not say no to a guy that has MLB experience in the rotation and the bullpen and who is young enough to be salvaged.

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   Soup Reply:
   July 28th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

   I doubt either of those teams would want Hughes over Nova.

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   Scout Reply:
   July 28th, 2011 at 1:23 pm

   MJ suggested adding Hughes to a deal. He didn’t say this would be in place of Nova. Possibly Hughes plus Nova becomes the centerpiece of a package.

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   Soup Reply:
   July 28th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

   Ah, I didn’t read him correctly, thought he was saying we shouldn’t trade him.

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   Reply:
   July 28th, 2011 at 2:35 pm

   That’s exactly what I meant Scout. Hughes/Nova could slightly ease the cost in prospects.

   At this point I think Hughes is pitching his ticket out of town so I’d rather send him out sooner rather than later.

   And all this is said by a guy that loves Hughes. I just acknowledge that the Yankees are running out of patience.

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7. Soup says:

   July 28, 2011 at 1:10 pm

   We need Ubaldo, otherwise we’ll overpay for CJ Wilson by a long shot. I’m not opposed to CJ, in fact I’d still want to sign him even if we had Ubaldo, I just don’t want to enter another off-season desperate for a starter when the pickings are so slim.

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8. T.J. Saint says:

   July 28, 2011 at 4:02 pm

   I prefer Kuroda. He will cost much less than Jimenez. Not to mention that since last year’s all star break, Ubaldo has posted an ugly 4.26 ERA against teams over .500. I also don’t see Ubaldo settling well in the AL East.

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